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Title: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: CamoBadger on May 29, 2010, 05:42:57 PM
I'm starting this as a conversation about what everyone hopes, dreams and expects Tali to look like.
Please feel free to express your opinions and listen to others.
If you want to contest another person's ideas, do so, but do not degrade this into getting pissed with each other. Use logic and what we currently know about Quarians in your arguments, and keep it civil people.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Captain Jean-Luc on May 29, 2010, 05:43:22 PM
Better thread than mine *deletes the old one*
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Muk on May 29, 2010, 05:44:12 PM
Liz Sroka with mandibles. NO ALTERNATIVE.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Rune on May 29, 2010, 05:45:04 PM
A beam of light shines down from the heavens. The hissing finally stops and the mask is parted. Behind the veil shines through a pale purple beauty with short hair of black and eyes reflective. A well defined nose is then revealed and finally average lips in a smile.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: CamoBadger on May 29, 2010, 05:50:31 PM
Better thread than mine *deletes the old one*

I'm sorry captain. I didn't know you had made one.  :(

Hug make better?
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: SirEmilCrane on May 29, 2010, 06:01:59 PM
A beam of light shines down from the heavens. The hissing finally stops and the mask is parted. Behind the veil shines through a pale purple beauty with short hair of black and eyes reflective. A well defined nose is then revealed and finally average lips in a smile.

what he said
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Sergio on May 29, 2010, 07:50:45 PM
I don't have any particular expectations for her face, other than it looking pretty human. Everything we know about quarians point to them having very human faces.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Dr. Tran on May 30, 2010, 12:05:53 AM
My expectation is basically Liz, probably a little paler with something odd ear wise.

I'd like to see vespaz's image as Tali's face, but if I don't like what we get I'm just going to mentally map vespaz's over the top and be done with it.

I like exploring the ideas of mandibles etc but I just don't see Bioware doing it.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: FXI on May 30, 2010, 12:44:04 AM
Okay, one thing I am positive about is that Tali won't have mandibles.

Why? The upper half of a lip can be seen on her placeholder face, and we can hear the distinctive sucking sound of a kiss as the romance scene fades to black.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Wolf Warden on May 30, 2010, 12:44:37 AM
I always pictured her face to have a defined nose, slanted eyes as suggested by what we see behind the mask.  The eyes themselves do not glow but they can reflect light in a glowing was the same as a cat's eye (they glow under the mask because the mask tactical display generates light which can sometimes make the eyes glow).  The eyes themselves have a blue/silvery quality to them and have a slit pupil instead of round.  Her skin would be a pale grey with blueish or lavender tint (very slight).  Ears are more built into the head but not to the extent that an Asari's are.  I do not picture hair.  Perhaps skin patterns that might help blend in with the savannah like setting I always pictured Rannoch to have (drier climate means less forests & more grasslands) but it would be slight.  

You can also just look at my pictures in the gallery instead of reading this too...  ;)
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Lemonwizard on May 31, 2010, 09:03:17 AM
I will be pretty ticked if we get the reveal and Quarians turn out to be humans but a different color, because that's a huge cop-out on alien design.



Enough is visible in the silhouette that we can surmise it will be reasonably close, but I very much hope we get some defining characteristics. Realistically, I expect the defining characteristics are just going to stay the different hands/legs, with maybe no hair or something to that effect and the face is going to just be human (btw, my money's on gray for the color....early ME1 concept art of Tali had her gray). I heard one of the books mentioned something about Quarian ears looking a bit strange.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Collider on May 31, 2010, 12:48:55 PM
My expectation is a recolored human. My hope is that Quarians are more alien that Asari are.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Doommarine23 on May 31, 2010, 12:54:00 PM
Similar to this small edit I did for a friend awhile back while we were discussing it.

(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3052/ahhhhf.jpg)
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Wolf Warden on May 31, 2010, 04:19:17 PM
Similar to this small edit I did for a friend awhile back while we were discussing it.

*snip*

I really like this edit.  I did NOT like the eyes of the original.  This fix has made it 10 times better.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: CamoBadger on May 31, 2010, 04:28:09 PM
You know what is sad...I never said my own opinion in the OP. Whoops.

Well, basically I want to have a pretty human looking face, maybe a little recolor to it, with silver eyes (not glowing, just silver), and of course, mandibles on either side of her mouth, and still with lips.

Mmmmmm...kissing your neck while the mandibles nibble the sides...
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: PMorgan18 on May 31, 2010, 05:09:15 PM
Anything like this: http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/053/b/4/Quarians_by_PolymorphicGirl.jpg (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/053/b/4/Quarians_by_PolymorphicGirl.jpg)
or this: http://th04.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2010/041/c/1/Tali_Zorah_by_LegendofTrinity.png (http://th04.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2010/041/c/1/Tali_Zorah_by_LegendofTrinity.png)
and I would be happy.  But I will probably be happy with almost anything.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: CamoBadger on May 31, 2010, 05:10:17 PM
Anything like this: [url]http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/053/b/4/Quarians_by_PolymorphicGirl.jpg[/url] ([url]http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/053/b/4/Quarians_by_PolymorphicGirl.jpg[/url])
or this: [url]http://th04.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2010/041/c/1/Tali_Zorah_by_LegendofTrinity.png[/url] ([url]http://th04.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2010/041/c/1/Tali_Zorah_by_LegendofTrinity.png[/url])
and I would be happy.  But I will probably be happy with almost anything.


I like the top one.

*stares at avatar*
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: PMorgan18 on May 31, 2010, 05:12:06 PM
That one is so cute.  I just love her expression in it.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Harold_Genhi on June 01, 2010, 02:47:13 AM
i simply hope to see it and that she lives in ME3, not an F-ing death scene where she wants to kiss you one last time and you take the mask off, id be one mad individual as would... oh... every Talimancer...
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: FXI on June 01, 2010, 03:35:08 AM
i simply hope to see it and that she lives in ME3, not an F-ing death scene where she wants to kiss you one last time and you take the mask off, id be one mad individual as would... oh... every Talimancer...

Well, I'd hope to see that if I do something stupid to get her killed.

As long as it was my fault.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Rune on June 01, 2010, 03:38:06 AM
Well, I'd hope to see that if I do something stupid to get her killed.

As long as it was my fault.
imo If you screw up bad enough to make her die you don't deserve to see her face :\
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: FXI on June 01, 2010, 04:18:00 AM
imo If you screw up bad enough to make her die you don't deserve to see her face :\

Hey, that doesn't mean I don't love her! It just means that I'm incompetent!

And I do love her, I will do everything in my power to keep her alive and happy.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: emedeka on June 01, 2010, 08:35:34 PM
The one thing we do know about the Mass Effect Universe is that Humans are the only ones with Hair (or "fur"). I think it was implied more than once. but I don't remember where  :-\

But well, being a commoner in the church of Saint James T. Kirk
I wouldn't mind if she looks like this
(http://i50.tinypic.com/1eoxm0.jpg)
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: XT Vengeance on June 01, 2010, 08:37:10 PM
The one thing we do know about the Mass Effect Universe is that Humans are the only ones with Hair (or "fur"). I think it was implied more than once. but I don't remember where  :-\

But well, being a commoner in the church of Saint James T. Kirk
I wouldn't mind if she looks like this
([url]http://i50.tinypic.com/1eoxm0.jpg[/url])
I heard somewhere that batarians have short fur covering their bodies.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Rune on June 01, 2010, 08:37:18 PM
The one thing we do know about the Mass Effect Universe is that Humans are the only ones with Hair (or "fur"). I think it was implied more than once. but I don't remember where  :-\
<snip>
They may have hair, I don't remember reading in either book or in either game humans were alone in it. And technically, we aren't. Batarians have a coating of fine hair on their faces according to Revelation I believe.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: XT Vengeance on June 01, 2010, 08:39:13 PM
They may have hair, I don't remember reading in either book or in either game humans were alone in it. And technically, we aren't. Batarians have a coating of fine hair on their faces according to Revelation I believe.
Yeah if we were the only ones with hair, would that have made us the only space-faring mammals?
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Rune on June 01, 2010, 08:40:37 PM
Yeah if we were the only ones with hair, would that have made us the only space-faring mammals?
Well, if we're going there, Quarians are mammalian analogues ^.^
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: XT Vengeance on June 01, 2010, 08:42:35 PM
I will be pretty ticked if we get the reveal and Quarians turn out to be humans but a different color, because that's a huge cop-out on alien design.



Enough is visible in the silhouette that we can surmise it will be reasonably close, but I very much hope we get some defining characteristics. Realistically, I expect the defining characteristics are just going to stay the different hands/legs, with maybe no hair or something to that effect and the face is going to just be human (btw, my money's on gray for the color....early ME1 concept art of Tali had her gray). I heard one of the books mentioned something about Quarian ears looking a bit strange.
What about the fact that they are of opposite chirality, have three fingers and toes on each hand and foot, and have curved shins?
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: XT Vengeance on June 01, 2010, 08:43:50 PM
Well, if we're going there, Quarians are mammalian analogues ^.^
True.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: emedeka on June 01, 2010, 09:30:08 PM
You don't need hair to be a mammal.

See Dophins and Whales.


Heck, you don't even to give birth to be a mammal. the platipus lays EGGS and is a mammal (yeah, platipus are totally fucked up)
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Muk on June 01, 2010, 09:43:39 PM
You don't need hair to be a mammal.

See Dophins and Whales.


Heck, you don't even to give birth to be a mammal. the platypus lays EGGS and is a mammal (yeah, platypus are totally fucked up)
Platypodes aren't the only mammals that lay eggs, there's a whole class of animals like that, monotremes, echidnas are another example.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: FsDxRAGE on June 01, 2010, 09:49:51 PM
I don't care what she looks like, I just want to see her smile :wub:
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: FXI on June 01, 2010, 09:55:07 PM
The only thing we do know about her face is that it will follow the general shape of her placeholder.

And honestly, her face could (and probably will) look like a recoloured human and she'd still be more alien then the asari.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Rune on June 01, 2010, 09:55:23 PM
The only thing we do know about her face is that it will follow the general shape of her placeholder.

And honestly, her face could (and probably will) look like a recoloured human and she'd still be more alien then the asari.
Indeed.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Avian on June 10, 2010, 07:16:29 AM
I don't need to see her face.  I know she's already beautiful, based on Shepard's expression in the romance scene.   8)
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Collider on June 10, 2010, 08:07:40 AM
The only thing we do know about her face is that it will follow the general shape of her placeholder.

And honestly, her face could (and probably will) look like a recoloured human and she'd still be more alien then the asari.
I disagree. They'd be about the same - quarians have slightly different body shape, and asari have different head shape. I want Quarians to be more than recolored humans...I don't want another Asari near-human race.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Savakka1 on June 10, 2010, 11:39:21 AM
I disagree. They'd be about the same - quarians have slightly different body shape, and asari have different head shape. I want Quarians to be more than recolored humans...I don't want another Asari near-human race.
I agree with this opinion yet again.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: emedeka on June 10, 2010, 03:06:50 PM

I want the one on the Left.
(http://i45.tinypic.com/dqmbuo.jpg)








what?
She could look like a protoss and I still wouldn't mind.
(http://i45.tinypic.com/1z6wf8p.jpg)

Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: phonypapercut on June 10, 2010, 03:27:27 PM
Protoss skin color and facial structure would be win. She needs a mouth though...
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Lemonwizard on June 10, 2010, 03:39:53 PM
She already has a mouth for sure. That much is known.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: GoatShep on June 10, 2010, 07:07:02 PM
Tali's face must be revealed so that she doesn't turn into a brown paper bag joke.

I will be a happy Talimancer either way, but they really need to do this.

IF:

ME3 face reveals a distinctly alien looking Tali; will those who favored a human-face be disappointed? Turned off by Tali?

ME3 face reveals a distinctly human looking Tali; will those who favored an alien-face be disappointed? Turned off by Tali?

People who claim to like Tali for her personality?

It is the ultimate Talimancer test. I already see plenty of people in the future saying "I miss the bucket". Sad.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Collider on June 10, 2010, 07:08:47 PM
I do want her to look distinctly alien. But I'll be fine with whatever they make her look like.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: GoatShep on June 10, 2010, 07:33:00 PM
You're one of the last people I'm worried about, Collider. We all have preferences, but overall every Talimancer should be completely content with whatever happens (reasonably). That's not the truth, though.

Those who don't want her face shown "to preserve the mystery" Idk what to think of. Are they scared she'll be ugly or not what they imagined? Or do they think that the helmet is part of her character? It's probably both, but Tali deserves to be revealed. Her character is nearly complete by showing her face to Shepard, but I AM SHEPARD! Show her face!

Maybe some skin, too  :sorcerer:
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Collider on June 10, 2010, 07:53:00 PM
I don't really mind the people (not the haters...I don't care about their opinion) who say they prefer her face not being revealed. That's a valid opinion.

I don't really get the appeal of mystery. I mean, it's just a face.

Rather, I prefer people who say that her face shouldn't be revealed or that they prefer her face not to be revealed for a better reason. Like the romance's theme is looking past the mask, disregarding the physical and embracing her for who she is, not what she is.

I do want them to reveal her face, but I won't really care (too much) if they don't.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: killer rin on June 11, 2010, 12:44:48 AM
I don't need to know the Face... Only the Skin Color Then we can get some interesting Fan Art using what we know about quarians
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: MrBoomba on June 11, 2010, 02:39:44 AM
You're one of the last people I'm worried about, Collider. We all have preferences, but overall every Talimancer should be completely content with whatever happens (reasonably). That's not the truth, though.

Those who don't want her face shown "to preserve the mystery" Idk what to think of. Are they scared she'll be ugly or not what they imagined? Or do they think that the helmet is part of her character? It's probably both, but Tali deserves to be revealed. Her character is nearly complete by showing her face to Shepard, but I AM SHEPARD! Show her face!

Maybe some skin, too  :sorcerer:

Right now all we can really refer to Tali is her helmet/eyes considering the brain needs a face to match the name. When you talk about somebody, what pops into your head? their voice? No, their body and face, what they look like. right now the mask is what we see Tali as, but I do agree with you it will be a test to show who Talimancers really are that go for her personality, unless it was the face they wanted and I definately see paper bag being played if she keeps her "mystery" as people call it. To not reveal her face is foolish in my mind and anybody who wants to keep it a "mystery" either does it so they can keep drawing her face as what they want or they just don't want to change their view when they refer to Tali now, the mask. I don't mean that as in they are afraid to see, just of change.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Swhitelake7 on June 11, 2010, 05:38:50 PM
I agree with runescapeguy but i always pictured Tali with long flowy slightly curly not much black hair
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Swhitelake7 on June 11, 2010, 05:53:10 PM
this is how i see tali going down since there bodies are always covered and the way shepard looked at Tali during the romance scene I think they will make Quarians the most beautiful race in the galaxy just because they never show a Quarians body or face now based on that i think they will make her more human like or they will make her a gorgeous alien with slight human traits like hair
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Dr. Tran on June 12, 2010, 01:24:31 AM
I agree with runescapeguy but i always pictured Tali with long flowy slightly curly not much black hair

I always pictured pale skin, inline with us geek types who spend all day indoors, except more so and short black hair.  Long would be a -bitch- in a permanent suit.  Infact hair at all would be a bitch, but if you had some sort of futuristic auto hair cutting thingamajig it would make a lot of sense to keep hair short, at least short enough that it didn't get in the eyes.

As for skin color, I have yet to imagine how any of the races could develop into the bright colors we see.  I mean srsly guys, hanar... pink?  really?  I see greys, pinks, browns, the usual large animal colors being pretty standard fair.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Rune on June 12, 2010, 01:32:25 AM
I always pictured pale skin, inline with us geek types who spend all day indoors, except more so and short black hair.  Long would be a -bitch- in a permanent suit.  Infact hair at all would be a bitch, but if you had some sort of futuristic auto hair cutting thingamajig it would make a lot of sense to keep hair short, at least short enough that it didn't get in the eyes.

As for skin color, I have yet to imagine how any of the races could develop into the bright colors we see.  I mean srsly guys, hanar... pink?  really?  I see greys, pinks, browns, the usual large animal colors being pretty standard fair.
On bsn thunder gave a very good argument as to why their skin would be purple. I have been switched to the side of the purple. :3
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: SkullandBonesmember on June 12, 2010, 01:38:05 AM
or this: [url]http://th04.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2010/041/c/1/Tali_Zorah_by_LegendofTrinity.png[/url] ([url]http://th04.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2010/041/c/1/Tali_Zorah_by_LegendofTrinity.png[/url])


That would be really cool minus the hair and give her glowy cat like eyes.

It is the ultimate Talimancer test.


You make a good point.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Dr. Tran on June 12, 2010, 01:41:45 AM
On bsn thunder gave a very good argument as to why their skin would be purple. I have been switched to the side of the purple. :3
Have link will post?

I just can't see purple, but I'd like to read the argument for it if you've got the link.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Rune on June 12, 2010, 02:32:33 AM
Have link will post?

I just can't see purple, but I'd like to read the argument for it if you've got the link.
Bah...I don't have it. I'll ask him the next time he's on. Said it was in his blog.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: badrobot on June 12, 2010, 02:38:25 AM
Bah...I don't have it. I'll ask him the next time he's on. Said it was in his blog.


Here it is:
http://social.bioware.com/930045/blog/5807/
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Rune on June 12, 2010, 02:44:39 AM
Here it is:
[url]http://social.bioware.com/930045/blog/5807/[/url]
There ya go!
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: AAShep on June 12, 2010, 05:50:18 AM
I picture Tali having lavender skin with neck-length black hair and... I'm not sure about the eyes. I don't think they glow, though. Just reflect. And I'm kind of tired of hearing silver hair. Really, silver is the elvish version of blonde, and I don't want Tali to be a space elf. But to each his own...

My defining quality in my imagination, however, is the QUILLS. Look a geth head; you see the head-flaps there that move up and down to indicate expression. We humans make robots to resemble us; it would make sense that the quarians do as well. I can imagine several inch-across quills on her head of varying color(not rainbow, just any color really). They move up and down and show expression, just like Legion does. This is in addition to hair.

I think the quills thing is kind of cool, but whatever. Maybe they look like feathers or something. Idk.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: SkullandBonesmember on June 12, 2010, 06:40:47 AM
Somebody left a comment on a YouTube video of the Tali romance scene saying how a quarian could be shown with a helmet so we know what they look like, but not show Tali's face so we can leave what she looks like up to our imaginations. Do you think that could work or would you be pissed?
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Rune on June 12, 2010, 06:46:06 AM
Somebody left a comment on a YouTube video of the Tali romance scene saying how a quarian could be shown with a helmet so we know what they look like, but not show Tali's face so we can leave what she looks like up to our imaginations. Do you think that could work or would you be pissed?
Uberpissed. IfWhen they show a quarian they had damn better well show the one that matters
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: SkullandBonesmember on June 12, 2010, 06:54:28 AM
Uberpissed. IfWhen they show a quarian they had damn better well show the one that matters

I see where yo're coming from, but thing is, I don't think everybody would walk away happy judging by some posts here. The suggestion that person made seems the most logical.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Avian on June 12, 2010, 06:55:57 AM
Somebody left a comment on a YouTube video of the Tali romance scene saying how a quarian could be shown with a helmet so we know what they look like, but not show Tali's face so we can leave what she looks like up to our imaginations. Do you think that could work or would you be pissed?
That would be good, but I think we should see what Quarians look like, especially if the only one is Tali.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Rune on June 12, 2010, 07:05:28 AM
I see where yo're coming from, but thing is, I don't think everybody would walk away happy judging by some posts here. The suggestion that person made seems the most logical.
Tali is the main quarian in the game. It makes sense that we would see her face. It would complete our picture of the quarian people.
aerkjgarelkhjkarghajkrgh I'm just going to let this one go. My opinion won't change. I'm not worried about it though.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Swhitelake7 on June 12, 2010, 02:10:52 PM
well if you look at Talis hood it flares out so that made me assume that her hair would be long and flowy
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: FXI on June 12, 2010, 03:07:55 PM
well if you look at Talis hood it flares out so that made me assume that her hair would be long and flowy

And if you look at Tali's ME1 hood it doesn't flare out.

She might want long hair, but I doubt she has it for both practical reasons, and the fact that MEs engine doesn't like long hair.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Collider on June 12, 2010, 04:25:54 PM
Her hood was likely just a cosmetic change.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Skadhi on August 10, 2010, 08:07:06 PM
A beam of light shines down from the heavens. The hissing finally stops and the mask is parted. Behind the veil shines through a pale purple beauty with short hair of black and eyes reflective. A well defined nose is then revealed and finally average lips in a smile.

Outstanding!  I like your idea.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Tobbs on August 10, 2010, 11:58:34 PM
The Illusive Man has spoken
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: JDog2pt0 on August 11, 2010, 09:39:45 PM
Tali has to be cute, especially with that voice of hers. None of the pictures I've seen completely capture that cuteness. Also, I don't find mandibles all that attractive, and I don't see her as having hair either.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: MadCat221 on August 12, 2010, 06:19:01 PM
Not exactly a Tali face rendition, but a rendition of Kal'Reegar that I found on dA.  It's still quarian...

http://meken.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2jl75y
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Skye_Flyer on March 17, 2011, 04:46:42 AM
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2csjpdh.png)

Apparently, Tali has no lower jaw. OMK she's Darth Malak!
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Para-Cord on March 17, 2011, 10:32:22 AM
well if you look at Talis hood it flares out so that made me assume that her hair would be long and flowy

I agree with this! Also, I do believe she would be cute because after Shepard falls in love with her for who she is and she has such a wonderful personality, she is bound to be beautiful.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: sweffymo on March 17, 2011, 02:05:52 PM
I don't care what Tali's face looks like, really...  The placeholder face that they have in there isn't very detailed, but if she looks roughly like that I will not be mad.  Even if she looked like a headcrab zombie I wouldn't be mad, but I WOULD be impressed that she was able to fit that inside a helmet.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Tobbs on March 17, 2011, 02:18:43 PM
I don't care what Tali's face looks like, really...  The placeholder face that they have in there isn't very detailed, but if she looks roughly like that I will not be mad.  Even if she looked like a headcrab zombie I wouldn't be mad, but I WOULD be impressed that she was able to fit that inside a helmet.

:D
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: sweffymo on March 18, 2011, 03:56:40 PM
You don't need hair to be a mammal.

See Dophins and Whales.


Heck, you don't even to give birth to be a mammal. the platipus lays EGGS and is a mammal (yeah, platipus are totally fucked up)


OK, I just noticed this.  Dolphins and whales DO have hair.  All mammals have hair.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammal)
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: chalio on March 18, 2011, 07:50:48 PM
OK, I just noticed this.  Dolphins and whales DO have hair.  All mammals have hair.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammal[/url] ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammal[/url])


how about this, it would be preferable for tali to have nice hair...not dolphin or whale hair lol
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Para-Cord on March 19, 2011, 01:32:22 AM
how about this, it would be preferable for tali to have nice hair...not dolphin or whale hair lol

Agreed chalio! It would be nice for Tali to have long flowing hair. Might be unrealistic, but a nice gesture!
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Skye_Flyer on March 19, 2011, 05:38:27 PM
I think she would have some kind of flaps on her head (Possibly made of keratin or somesuch) which would be the inspiration for the flaps geth have. (Then again, Legion is the only geth we really know that has flaps. None of the other geth we see in me1 or 2 apparently have them).
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: sweffymo on March 19, 2011, 05:50:56 PM
I wasn't saying that I think Tali has whale hair...  >.>

I was saying that if you think that you don't need hair to be a mammal, you're dead wrong.  I don't know if quarians have hair or not because they're not mammals...  They don't come from Earth.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: chalio on March 20, 2011, 12:37:38 AM
I think she would have some kind of flaps on her head (Possibly made of keratin or somesuch) which would be the inspiration for the flaps geth have. (Then again, Legion is the only geth we really know that has flaps. None of the other geth we see in me1 or 2 apparently have them).

you could be right, but look at our robots today, they do share a common look between us but there are differences, for instance the hands dont aways have five fingers, another being the face, they contain a solid piece of glass often rather then two distinct eyes.
one last thing to note is that the flaps dont necessarily mean anything...clearly we see that quarians have two eyes, but the geth have one flash light eye therefor the flaps could also be only for geth purposes we know nothing about...another words i hope to god quarians dont have the flaps lol
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: sweffymo on March 20, 2011, 12:49:13 AM
Of course, if you take that line of thought further, you could use it to support the opinion that quarians' eyes are bioluminescent.  (Which I hope is what they end up having but all the other nerds hope isn't true, lol)
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Skye_Flyer on March 21, 2011, 03:05:12 AM
Of course, if you take that line of thought further, you could use it to support the opinion that quarians' eyes are bioluminescent.  (Which I hope is what they end up having but all the other nerds hope isn't true, lol)

I'm totally ok with bioluminescent eyes.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: chalio on March 21, 2011, 03:08:24 AM
as long as we find out tali's helmet is the futuristic equivalent of a daft punk helmet...ill be happy...along with seeing her face of course...but ya know...it'll be nice if you take the helmet off and here around the world or somthing softly playing from her helmet...tell me that would't make ya smile
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: MadCat221 on March 21, 2011, 07:27:14 AM
Daft Punk helmet?

Then that means we'd never see what was under it, you realize... right?
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: sweffymo on March 21, 2011, 01:30:12 PM
Daft Punk helmet?

Then that means we'd never see what was under it, you realize... right?


(http://img.listal.com/image/501332/600full-daft-punk.jpg)
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: MadCat221 on March 22, 2011, 06:30:05 AM
And how old is that image? :P
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: sweffymo on March 22, 2011, 12:19:37 PM
And how old is that image? :P

Not sure how that matters...
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: emedeka on March 22, 2011, 11:26:26 PM
For all we know those may not be helmets anymore
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: sweffymo on March 22, 2011, 11:34:18 PM
For all we know those may not be helmets anymore

Are you kidding?  The French don't have the technology for head transplants! :P
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: emedeka on March 24, 2011, 02:17:54 AM
perhaps they did it piece by piece, Techpriest style.

They are more machine than man now.

Machines designed with the sole purpose of making sweet sweet music.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: chalio on March 24, 2011, 08:44:32 PM
we all know what talis going to do after shes done with the reapers....DJ....its pretty obvious
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: sweffymo on March 24, 2011, 08:49:46 PM
we all know what talis going to do after shes done with the reapers....DJ....its pretty obvious

That's not ALL she's going to do... :3
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: emedeka on March 25, 2011, 03:04:04 AM
Of course, She's also going to Fix the engines, polish the main cannons, Calibrate DAT BUOYANCY tanks, go at 88mph with the flux capacitor on.


But only after having a wild night of sex with Shepard and recovering from the subsequent fever.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: sweffymo on March 25, 2011, 11:58:26 AM
Of course, She's also going to Fix the engines, polish the main cannons, Calibrate DAT BUOYANCY tanks, go at 88mph with the flux capacitor on.


But only after having a wild night of sex with Shepard and recovering from the subsequent fever.

DOSE BUOYANCY tanks don't require calibration.  8)
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: emedeka on March 25, 2011, 01:45:34 PM
what Who the hell uses a DOSE brand BUOYANCY tanks?

The D.A.T. company manufactures the best one there are.

like the D.A.T. Automated Supervision System. Their best product on the entire DAT line.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: sweffymo on March 25, 2011, 02:13:02 PM
Psh.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: SenHai on March 26, 2011, 07:06:35 PM
I think she would have some kind of flaps on her head (Possibly made of keratin or somesuch) which would be the inspiration for the flaps geth have. (Then again, Legion is the only geth we really know that has flaps. None of the other geth we see in me1 or 2 apparently have them).
I believe its a fallacy to think that. I mean I have seen it done with quills on a Quarians head in fan art, but i believe that the Head flaps are more of geth invention than mimicking Quarians. This can be attested to with the fact that all the other geth have non-moving plates on their heads, it seems to be a solid piece, used for protection.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: mikethor007 on March 26, 2011, 07:12:10 PM
I believe its a fallacy to think that. I mean I have seen it done with quills on a Quarians head in fan art, but i believe that the Head flaps are more of geth invention than mimicking Quarians. This can be attested to with the fact that all the other geth have non-moving plates on their heads, it seems to be a solid piece, used for protection.
This.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Zeno826 on July 14, 2011, 11:30:43 AM
I think that if her face was to be shown in ME3, they shouldnt give her pupils in her eyes. I just think she looks weird with normal, "human" eyes.
Something like this :) (http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://jugheads.be/wp-content/gallery/mass-effect-3-fan-art/tali-zorah-portrait-mass-effect-3.jpg&imgrefurl=http://jugheads.be/%3Fp%3D410&usg=__lfAWvhek6QwwPlaw-IpV0pYfddY=&h=950&w=900&sz=137&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=RJVMaLvokVQjQM:&tbnh=133&tbnw=126&ei=A9MeTvbXJcPzmAWP0biTAw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dtali%2Bmass%2Beffect%2B3%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1152%26bih%3D568%26gbv%3D2%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=691&vpy=70&dur=804&hovh=231&hovw=218&tx=64&ty=92&page=1&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0&biw=1152&bih=568)
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Moth on July 14, 2011, 09:58:54 PM
Beware of gigantic link. Ah well, my opinion? I like Vespaz's, the one Zeno just posted.... along with the one by Geirahod. I'm not against nor am I for biolumiscent eyes. Also, I'm gonna freak if she doesn't have hair.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: RobotNixon on July 14, 2011, 10:04:19 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if she ends up looking like a Romulan.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Muk on July 15, 2011, 06:00:10 AM
Global Moderator Comment Um... yeah, I fixed that link. Please don't do that.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Rune on July 15, 2011, 05:05:42 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if she ends up looking like a Romulan.
I am totally okay with this.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: emedeka on July 15, 2011, 05:27:39 PM
Censored version.
(http://i.imgur.com/MgqLe.jpg)
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Octo on August 18, 2011, 09:40:30 PM
Quarians are not mammals. They are the product of a completely different evolution. It makes absolutely no sense to apply Earth-biological classifications to them. They may share some traits with Earth mammals, but that doesn't mean they have to share all the traits of Earth mammals.

Personally, I like the fact that, as far as we can see, humans are the only species with hair in the galaxy. In mosts cience fiction universes aliens are so to say derivates of humans - different in the one or other way, making humans the average/standard/middle. I like how that isn't so in ME, that humans have a distinctive physical feature, and I'd like to keep it that way.

I also don't like the concept of quarians as quasi-human "space elves". They should be properly alien. Not too much, since we do see a human-like placeholder face, but still alien enough. More alien than the asari, since it's after all the asari's special shtick that they look like humans (or like any race to that race). Something along the exoticness level of the drell, maybe...

But most of all no hair, please :P
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Rune on August 19, 2011, 01:47:07 AM
Humans are not the only ones with hair. Batarians also have hair. It would be nice to see another race with it.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Octo on August 19, 2011, 03:07:34 PM
That's been said before. Where is it stated? One of the novels? I really don't like the idea. Humans should have a distinctive physical trait, instead of being the average norm from which all other races derivate.

So, I disagree. It would be nice to have humanity as only race with hair, and I wouldn't like to see it on quarians.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: greyfalls on August 19, 2011, 05:26:42 PM
Well, asari have eyelashes... or is that just Samara? lol
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Muk on August 19, 2011, 07:17:23 PM
Batarian have very very fine hair all over their body. I think it's mentioned in Revelations.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Octo on August 19, 2011, 07:27:28 PM
And alas, the novels are canon. Unless otherwise stated. Bah, can ME 3 please state otherwise? :P
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Karrig on August 19, 2011, 11:03:50 PM
If you want to know the secret of tali face stop thinking rattionaly, think what would give bioware and EA more money. And then you got the answer.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: sekse on August 19, 2011, 11:21:11 PM
Meet the musical little creatures that hide among the flowers...
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Rear Admiral Kikaimegami on August 20, 2011, 12:23:54 AM
If you want to know the secret of tali face stop thinking rattionaly, think what would give bioware and EA more money. And then you got the answer.
Space Elves.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Para-Cord on August 20, 2011, 12:28:00 AM
Space Elves.

Exactly what I was thinking! But personally I don't think it's be all too bad... :3
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Muk on August 20, 2011, 01:48:46 AM
Asari are already space elves. And one race of elves is bad enough.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: sekse on August 20, 2011, 01:57:44 AM
Asari are already space elves. And one race of elves is bad enough.

No the Asari are the Ceph from Crysis 2 just a little more evolved
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Muk on August 20, 2011, 02:27:47 AM
No the Asari are the Ceph from Crysis 2 just a little more evolved
Then the Ceph are space elves, too.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: greyfalls on August 20, 2011, 06:31:03 AM
No the Asari are the Ceph from Crysis 2 just a little more evolved

LIES. The Ceph are hotter.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Octo on August 20, 2011, 08:27:43 AM
"No, you are a Space Elf," Mukora said.

And then the Ceph were Space Elves.

----

Ehem. Anyway, I like the asari. Obviously. But that really is already their niche. Please no (further) space elves... but yeah, unfortunately, Karrig has a point.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Karrig on August 20, 2011, 12:29:33 PM
They are going to make Tali look like a human with some kind of reptil flesh or something, the place holder is alredy there, unfortunatelly it's not going to be more far from the place holder what they would do...
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Toxiic Skull Fumes on August 20, 2011, 12:42:18 PM
I would just like it to be a beautiful woman with hair or like it but just not what all the morons on the internet make her look like. and i mean make her look bad....really bad i dont mean the people on this site u guys r great but the other people on the internet they should be resonable like the youtube vid when shepherd takes her mask off and people make it some twisted sick joke....assholes please bioware make the right choice. :3
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Toxiic Skull Fumes on August 20, 2011, 12:54:55 PM
Of course, She's also going to Fix the engines, polish the main cannons, Calibrate DAT BUOYANCY tanks, go at 88mph with the flux capacitor on.


But only after having a wild night of sex with Shepard and recovering from the subsequent fever.

SIR I LIKE THE WAY YOU THINK!  :D
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: emedeka on August 20, 2011, 11:17:36 PM
Brace yourselves for Red Asari.


What?.. It might happen.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: NucaCola on August 21, 2011, 04:05:20 AM
I like the idea of quarians being red (more like pink due to no sunlight).
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: sekse on August 21, 2011, 07:12:09 AM
Brace yourselves for Red Asari.


What?.. It might happen.


I can see that turian still on illium trying to seduce the quarian trying to get her to go watch The Hunt For Red Asari, starring Sir Sean Connery the 12th

Oh, and also:
Censored version.
([url]http://i.imgur.com/MgqLe.jpg[/url])

That looks too much like the creatures from Mimic
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: monje33 on September 01, 2011, 06:00:40 AM
....Find your world.....

(http://picturestack.com/846/429/em4talisworldNwk.jpg)

 ;D   :wub:
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Para-Cord on September 01, 2011, 10:51:50 PM
....Find your world.....

([url]http://picturestack.com/846/429/em4talisworldNwk.jpg[/url])

 ;D   :wub:


I really want to know where people find stuff like this.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Muk on September 02, 2011, 12:24:51 AM
DeviantArt, most likely.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: exelsisxax on September 02, 2011, 01:50:28 AM
http://miinamiyafuji.deviantart.com/art/Tali-256123008?q=sort%3Atime%20tali&qo=11 (http://miinamiyafuji.deviantart.com/art/Tali-256123008?q=sort%3Atime%20tali&qo=11)

so, you think she is going to look like a 10 year old girl, who is totally tripping her balls off?
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: sekse on September 03, 2011, 12:00:54 PM
I really want to know where people find stuff like this.

Second star to the right, straight on till morning? lol
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Advicepuppy on October 01, 2011, 01:34:20 AM
A beam of light shines down from the heavens. The hissing finally stops and the mask is parted. Behind the veil shines through a pale purple beauty with short hair of black and eyes reflective. A well defined nose is then revealed and finally average lips in a smile.


This.

If not exactly that, than just make her face as adorable as she is.  No freaky sh*t.  That's just weird.  Like, if you're attracted to some creepy insectoid looking thing, or
BEWARE
(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1686/me3talizorahv2.jpg)




*shudders*

then there's something seriously wrong with you.  Even if we were madly in love, if she took her mask off and I saw that, I'd either kill it with fire or put the mask back on and give myself a concussion to hopefully forget it.

So yeah, face as cute as she is.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Muk on October 01, 2011, 02:03:05 AM
... What... in the name of god is that thing? It's like a monkey/rodian thing...
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Advicepuppy on October 01, 2011, 02:40:41 AM
... What... in the name of god is that thing? It's like a monkey/rodian thing...

It's a retarded monkeydeer.  Was my warning fair enough?  Btw, that was my first post as a member of the forum xD

Edit

And it's fanart for Tali.  Someone said that they thought that's what she should look like.  I mean what could possibly possess you to say that?  That thing is an abomination.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: sekse on October 01, 2011, 04:31:14 AM
Eh, looks like Jamie Lee Curtis after cybernetic surgery.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Octo on October 01, 2011, 10:15:11 AM
This.

If not exactly that, than just make her face as adorable as she is.  No freaky sh*t.  That's just weird.

Somehow that seems like a reversal of causality to me. At least in-game.

Quote
Like, if you're attracted to some creepy insectoid looking thing, or
BEWARE
([url]http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1686/me3talizorahv2.jpg[/url])

Well, we do talk about an interspecies romance here after all. I don't think Tali should be insectoid or anything (lol), but the post you quoted - human hair, human nose, human lips? Wouldn't it be easier than to date a human? Just saying...

And really, disregarding the Tali romance for a while I simply would not like at all a race to be more human-like than the asari. That's the asari's shtick, that every race considers them looking just like them, and that they do look just like blue humans. So quarians do need to look well, alien enough for the sake of worldbuilding, any romances notwithstanding.

That being said, yeah I hope Tali doesn't look like on the pic. Though they do say in Ascension quarians have weird things on the side of their faces that might pass for ears... and the head form kinda fits to the helmets... so I can see the logic so to say of the picture. Still, I rather hope not that this is what quarians look like.

I think quarians will get a similar conception like drell. That is exotic enough but also similar to humans enough that single individuals can be considered attractive by human standards.

Quote
Even if we were madly in love, if she took her mask off and I saw that, I'd either kill it with fire or put the mask back on and give myself a concussion to hopefully forget it.

Now, that's a true point. If Tali were really hideous by human standards, then surely Shepard would have shown some reaction when he removed her mask.

Quote
So yeah, face as cute as she is.

Does that logic also mean that non-cute looking people cannot have nice personalities?
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Advicepuppy on October 02, 2011, 10:21:15 PM
Does that logic also mean that non-cute looking people cannot have nice personalities?

Hey, now, let's not go making assumptions.  Of course not, but I just think that making her like that would please WAY more people than it would piss off.  Retarded monkeydeer vs sort of alien but still good looking chick.  I'd imagine that most would choose the latter.  That one particular bit of fanart that showed her looking pretty human was amazing.  Personally I think that'd be the best for most people.  Btw, what do Asari look like to each other?


Well, we do talk about an interspecies romance here after all. I don't think Tali should be insectoid or anything (lol), but the post you quoted - human hair, human nose, human lips? Wouldn't it be easier than to date a human? Just saying...

She's just so damned adorable, though :P  Miranda's cool, but other than being eye candy, I felt rather indifferent.  The same goes for all of the others, really.  Tali was just so cute with her nervousness and whatnot.  I went for personality on that note, but if she's ugly or too alien looking (drell is a little bit too much for me, I think) then that would suck D:  They should give you the option at the beginning or something, but that would kinda ruin it.  I don't even know why I care so much, but having such a nice character messed up would suck.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Octo on October 02, 2011, 10:30:08 PM
Like... asari? :P

Of course it would be better if Tali turns out to be attractive beneath that envirosuit. And she most likely will. I think Bioware will simply go with the fans' wishes here. But for worldbuilding reasons alone I really, really wouldn't want quarians to be too human-like. After all, that's the drawback when dating alien chicks - they might turn to look somewhat odd :P
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Darth Crosis on October 03, 2011, 02:00:59 AM

But for worldbuilding reasons alone I really, really wouldn't want quarians to be too human-like.

Well, their eyes glow. Or are at least reflective/refractive of light. That's a difference you can see through their visors. Hands and feet are tri-dactyl (three digits) and for that matter, quarians' legs are built differently than humans. Subtle, but noticeable.

Not unattractive, I suppose.... just different. I don't think Bioware is going to go too far with her/their faces. Tali's may be the only one we see in any case. Unless they wrote in a quarian medical miracle, they still have pretty much zero immunity.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Octo on October 03, 2011, 03:37:24 AM
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She's just so damned adorable, though :P  Miranda's cool, but other than being eye candy, I felt rather indifferent.  The same goes for all of the others, really.  Tali was just so cute with her nervousness and whatnot.  I went for personality on that note, but if she's ugly or too alien looking (drell is a little bit too much for me, I think) then that would suck D:  They should give you the option at the beginning or something, but that would kinda ruin it.  I don't even know why I care so much, but having such a nice character messed up would suck.
Ugh, don't get me started on Miranda :P If not Tali, then I would say Ashley. Or maybe Jack...

And if you want nervousness and cuteness and stuff, wouldn't Liara in ME 1 fit better? ;) I dunno. I don't really like Tali being 'reduced' so to say to her nervousness in her romance scene. Because outside of that she is rather badass and snarky, and even has a rather dark outlook on life, at least in ME 2 ("I don't think life is about what we deserve").

But hey, going for personality is good. To be honest, that is a draw of the Tali romance for me, that 'love conquers anything' aspect - but well, it potentially comes with consequences ;) If you have love overcome the species barrier, then you might find your partner's body or face odd at places, heh.

Still, I don't think Tali will end up ugly. Bioware just wouldn't do so. However, drell-level exoticness is IMO very much on the cards.

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Well, their eyes glow. Or are at least reflective/refractive of light. That's a difference you can see through their visors. Hands and feet are tri-dactyl (three digits) and for that matter, quarians' legs are built differently than humans. Subtle, but noticeable.
If their faces are perfectly human then IMO those differences would still not matter, and it would still be a bit silly. IMO, at least, as said. But I do hope Biowre will go for "not unattractive, but different".
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: sekse on October 04, 2011, 05:11:40 AM
On the subject of Tali's face, i realized something about quarian envirosuits they probably won't do in ME3 that will make for a total plot hole.  The shaders used to make quarian visors so mysterious signifies that the environment within the suit is a very dense, foggy atmosphere, likely dense in flourine or something to that nature.  This is why you can hardly see their faces and would make sense to why their eyes glow if their native environment has extremely low visibility.  By that, it would only make sense for Rannoch to have a dense atmosphere in which you can't see 3 inches in front of your nose.

Back on topic, as for facial features, given such an environment it would make sense for their look to be evolved similar to that of terrestrial deep sea organisms, specifically like a sort of bipedal angler fish, thus a drell-like look does make the most sense, as much as I would like to see a slightly more human look, it would be the most logical outcome.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Darth Crosis on October 04, 2011, 08:26:18 AM
Logical IF all your assumptions prove correct. I wonder, with regard to their suits, where practical function ends and aesthetic preference begins. Also, given that nearly all of them are engineers, machinists, or something of that nature, they would need visors to guard their eyes against strong light sources, energy discharges, and so on. A hypothetical photosensitivity (or even heliosensitivity, now that I think about it) could have developed following their exile from their homeworld.

Also, with resources being as scarce as they are on the Migrant Fleet, they'd have to use whatever they could find to build the helmets and replace damaged parts. In other words, "form follows function". We've seen a handful of quarians out of millions.... some may have transparent visors (yes, I know, I'm reaching a little bit now).....
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: greyfalls on October 05, 2011, 01:12:58 AM
You guys are thinking too hard, Lemm'Shar in ME: Ascension says it's for personal privacy reasons why so many quarians polarize their visors. When the only "privacy" you typically have is a 10x10 room shared with five other people, that's understandable.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: sekse on October 05, 2011, 03:20:20 AM
Eh, I never read any of the books like Ascension.  Guess their eyes could be reflecting light from the visor HUD rather than glowing.  Although it does kind of defy a few things that they are polarized for privacy, concidering they complain about not being able to show their expressions, not to mention in the game they are fogged, not polarized, because polarized would have a much different look, not having the depth with decreasing visability like they have.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Darth Crosis on October 05, 2011, 06:39:46 AM
OK, yeah, that makes sense. I haven't read any of the novels yet either. In fact, I only bought the games and became an ME fan last month....  :P
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Advicepuppy on October 09, 2011, 10:19:27 PM
Or maybe it's because if they had the mask clear, then there would be little to no mystery surrounding Tali's face.  There's not a rhyme or reason to EVERYTHING, guys.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Muk on October 10, 2011, 03:18:42 AM
Except for the fact that it -is- explained in Ascension.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Advicepuppy on October 15, 2011, 02:03:22 AM
Orly?  I didn't read it, so I wouldn't know, lol.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Quarian.N7 on January 18, 2012, 11:03:44 PM
I'm keeping my idea to myself but i will say in my mind she is beautiful.
Title: Re: Tali's Face. Your expectations, hopes, and dreams.
Post by: Darius F vas Quib Quib on August 12, 2013, 01:03:27 AM
This thread has not seen much activity lately. fixed.  8)

I'm in a bit of a conundrum regarding Tali's face. For one I don't accept the 'official' photo of her you get in ME3, very human and very generic model. Looks like a blue Megan Fox :getout: . Secondly ME3 was when the series took a downturn. Not that it's a bad game, not at all. But there was a clear effort to gearsofwarify the game and up the sex appeal further; sadly Tali was victim of this.

That aside I can't imagine Tali with a face at all. She grew on me faceless, her personality alone is what got me fond of her and the addition of a face makes it a totally different character in my eyes.